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fiction. >> stephanie: i'll bet john mccain would let her sail through. okay. all right. [ whatever! ] >> i don't understand. >> stephanie: did you call bubba the love sponge? that's just weird. all right. in serious news -- [ ♪ "world news tonight" ♪ ] we dive into jacki's healthcare corner. you sent me a "washington post" piece. this is going to be a serious problem but many americans unaware of healthcare law changes. now comes the real work, right? people knowing about this and because if enough people don't take part, it's not going to work right? >> right. we've got a big task ahead of us and this is going to be a big issue. obviously we know from the fight over the affordable care act that we had a lot of trouble getting the right information out. so people knew what was really going on and what the affordable care act really does. >> stephanie: i was just going to say once again republicans thanks again because they spent so much time demagoguing it and stonewalling it, it has led to t
subject to withering and sometimes outlandish attacks from a wide range of republicans. senators john mccain and lindsey graham, two foreign policy leaders have slammed rice for her initial comments about the source of the libya attacks with mccain threatening to filibuster if he's nominated. many other republicans have joined in. 97 members of the house sent the president a letter monday opposing rice. now president obama is not backing down. the white house has confirmed it's still considering promoting rice and last week the president said if mccain and graham want to go after someone, they should go after him. rice was not exactly a household name during obama's first term. but all this heat from the political players is drawing some media fire. "the new york times" maureen dowd has knocked rice as an unsavvy washington player. while the "times" editorial page came out with an endorsing of the ambassador announcing it's time to leave rice alone. jonathan capehart one of the interesting things about this debate there's a lot of talk about what susan rice has done, specifically about libya
sides the u.s. necessarily needs to deal with egypt. >> yeah. you know, john mccain, we see hillary clinton there. john mccain had another opinion about who he thinks should be over in the middle east talking to these people. here's john mccain. >> find someone even as high ranking frankly as former president bill clinton. to go and be the negotiator. i know he would hate me for saying that but we need a person of enormous prestige and influence to have these parties sit down together as an honest broker. >> you know, when we hear mccain say something like this saying something nice about a democrat, then, of course, he has to go and say one more thing and here's john mccain once again. >> if this god forbid conflict escalates, again, it is a sign of american weakness throughout the region. before in crises, henry kissinger was there or jim baker was there or somebody was there brokering the process and bringing a halt to it. now the president makes phone calls from burma. we have dramatically changed. i ca
about everyone else. that's right. senator mccain took the opportunity on this historic day to once again attack the obama administration. so much for the spirit of thanksgiving. joining us now from washington, democratic congresswoman donna edwards of maryland. thank you for joining us. >> thank you. it's good to be with you. >> i want to talk about the president's foreign policy in a moment. in was a very big day for secretary clinton. high stakes when she made -- they made the decision to send her there. she's been able to help facilitate this historic announcement. >> comprehensive piece for all the people of the region. now we have to focus -- >> congresswoman, so this -- let's talk a little about what this day means for the secretary as she potentially looks at a run in 2016 but potentially is looking at the end of her time at the state department. >> well, i think today actually highlighted exactly why hillary clinton is a leader. i mean, the secretary of state did what she needed to do. she went in there. she brokered the conversations that had -- were the groundwork that ha
to be a broker between both sides the u.s. necessarily needs to deal with egypt. >> yes well, you know, john mccain we see hillary clinton there. john mccain had another opinion who he thinks should be over in the mideast talking to these people. >> even someone as high ranking frankly as former president bill clinton to go and be the negotiator. i know he would hate me for saying that, but we need someone of enormous prestige and influence to sit down with the parties together and work as a broker. >> when we see mccain saying something nice about a democrat, he has to go and say one more thing. this is john mccain once again. >> if this god-forbid violence escalates, if someone was there brokering the process and bringing a halt to it. now the president makes phone callscalls from burma? i can tell that you al-qaeda is on the rise and they're moving throughout the middle east, and we'll pay a very heavy price for it because of the lack of american leadership. >> you know michael, he mentions kissinger from the 70s, baker from the 90s and burma, that's not even what the country is called any more.
show." nearly 100 republicans are spending their time targeting ambassador susan rice. senator john mccain actually insulted her intelligence. >> is this a select committee clears her of wrong doing besides not being very bright because it was obvious that this was not a "flash mob"? there was no demonstration. there was none there. >> she's a graduate of stanford and also rode scholar. they claim she misled the public about the attack on the consulate in benghazi. rice was actually reporting the intelligence that she had been given. the republicans don't seem to care about the facts. they are worried that the president will appoint rice to be the next secretary of state. john mccain says rice isn't qualified. senator lindsey graham calls rice a political choice for ambassador and it's not a good resume to be secretary of state. 97 house republicans signed the letter to the president accusing rice of willfully or incompetently misleading the public. the republicans are using words like not qualified, not bright, and incompetent. some democrats feel these words are actually code. >> these a
versus john mccain in 2008. among liberals who are happy that mitt romney lost and among conservatives who are trying to say i told you so about the reasons mitt romney lost, there's been a fair amount of bipartisan anti-mitt romney glee over the idea that mr. romney received even fewer votes for president than john mccain did back in 2008. turns out that is not true. it may have looked like that on election night or on the day after the election. but millions of votes aren't counted right after the election. it takes days and even weeks after the election until you get all the vote in. the fact is that president obama did beat both of these candidates pretty easily. neither was a close election. but mr. romney was closer. and mr. romney did beat mr. mccain in terms of the number of ballots cast. which is either exciting or just population growth, depending on your perspective. but if somebody tells you that john mccain got more votes for mitt romney, that's not true. last one. same game round three. things people are saying about the election that aren't true, but it makes them feel b
anything out. senator of georgia said, i'm frankly not concerned about the norquist pledge. senator john mccain said fewer and fewer people are signing this "pledge." it's actually a pledge, but any way. senator coburn called it "a tortured vision of tax purity." and it did you want end there in that article. bill crystal said this. >> let's have a serious debate. don't scream and yell when one person says, it won't kill the country if we raise taxes on millionaires. i don't understand why republicans don't take obama's offer. >> a calmist at the national review wrote, as a matter of political strategy not to say survival, republicans will have to agree to raise taxes on those defined as rich. republicans must also contend with the pew poll that asked who would be more to blame if a deal were not reached. before a single meeting has been held, 29% said they blamed president obama while 53% said they would blame republicans in congress. former mississippi governor hailey barber was asked whether republicans should be open to upping tax rates if they got spending cuts in return. he said "if there
house. senator john mccain has come out now to issue this statement on the heels of that saying this latest episode another reason why many of rus so frustrated with and suspicious of the actions of this administration when it comes to the benghazi attack. yet again it goes back to the administration. why do you think the president's team has been successful in efforts to stop the controversy the despite this very strong defense of rice that's coming out -- that's coming from the president himself? have they done enough? >> have they done enough to defend susan rice? certainly, i think the president's been very clear about how he feels about susan rice. i think -- and he's been right to defend her. i think some of the attacks that have come from senator mccain and others have been very political in their tone and really not thinking about her job and the talking points she received and also the seriousness of the situation and the timing of when this political fight began, which was right in the middle of the heat of the election. i think we're just seeing that continue now and
carriage. citi price rewind. buy now. save later. gregg: republican senator john mccain says he is frustrated with reports that the intelligence community is suddenly changing its story on the benghazi attack. james clapper says they in fact did make the edits to the administration's talking points. but john mccain says senior intelligence officials were asked this very question including the director of intelligence and they told us they did not know who made the changes. now we have to read the answers to our questions in the media. he says general petraeus * said the cia knew within 24 hours al qaeda was behind it but susan rice did not use that information on the talk shows saying the siege resulted from a spontaneous protest. last thursday clapper tells one story and now according to his spokesman its is just the opposite. do you think he is not still telling the truth? >> it's hard to know. it's the old quote. i'm not mad you lied to me. i'm mad i can't believe anything you tell me. this is the head our intelligence an changes his mind within 24 hours. today is the 70th da
it to watergate. jon: i know on "fox news sunday" this week you'll be talking to senator john mccain and he is fired up on this issue. >> absolutely. and understandably so. when they hear from the intelligence community, the head of the director of national intelligence last week he doesn't know who changed the talking points and then he hears from the dni's office on monday, well in fact they did it, you do wonder who is on first here. as i say it would be funny fit weren't so tragic. jon: yeah. well, it is -- let's hope we get to the bottom of it at some point. chris, thank you very much. >> and we'll keep pushing. jon: we'll be looking for you on fox news sunday. much more about the latest developments in the benghazi controversy. an exclusive interview that chris will have with senator john mccain, "fox news sunday" this weekend. you'll have to check your local listings for the times it runs on the big fox network in your area. jenna: new developments in the search for a serial killer as a man wanted for questioning turns himself into police. some chilling details and what detectives fo
of a sudden, that pressure is mounting on the white house and he steps forward to admit culpability. john mccain released a statement quote, this latest episode is why many of us is so frustrated and suspicious of the actions of the administration when it comes to the benghazi attack. still with us is john bolton and liz cheney. you i hate to think that the director of national intelligence is liar. apparently she contradict go what he testified to just last week. is there another explanation? >> this whole thing. this is not a white house i would point out that has credibility on issues like this. people may not recall that back in 2009 then dni ambassador blair sent a memo to the white house saying how effective enhanced interrogation was. they took references out there. you have a record where you've got important documents that reflect issues of national security importance to the united states which are somewhere being edited in the process. secondly i would say it's important for people not to focus who took out those wordz. it is not as though susan rice went on the air or the secretary o
't heard john mccain or lindsey grame say susan rice should not be secretary of state if president obama wants her to be. >> and california congress welcome karen bass also ratzed concerns about the opposition to susan rice. >> this really compromises us and makes us look ridiculous i believe internationally because as far as i'm concerned, again, this is my colleagues on the other side of the aisle that are still recovering from november 6th. the election is over. >> chip, is it fair? what's going on here with this opposition? >> well, unfortunately, i think this has a little bit to do with politics on both sides, and it's always kind of funny to watch both parties after an election when they go after the other one's nominees and go this is all politics, this is terrible, and yet when they're on the opposite side they do the same thing. senator mccain and senator graham certainly have points they'll discus during the nomination process. susan rice is not the nominee to be the next united states secretary of state. and when that process happens, i think the senate will do its job through
for president in the 21st century. both bush, mccain and romney, none of them took the position. said that simply says those in the tea party and far right are in the tea party and the far right and have not infiltrated to mainstream thinking even in the republican party. >> that goes back to what mr. marc fauntroy said in termsf investment and not just focus on it as spending. >> i just want to pick up on janet's point with regard to speaker boehner. he may well be the most important person in all these conversations. the huskies to get that to a team. we talk about these broad bipartisan approaches. the reality is we went through this with the affordable care act. so over the course -- [inaudible] >> its members. it's not. we know going back from that newt gingrich became speaker come in the house is generally run like this. no bill they can't get a majority of the maturity will see the floor of the house. now if speaker boehner decided that i don't have the majority of my own caucus, but i have a critical enough mass to put a pill in place that will settle this to get us to move on
. and i think that it's time for these people to stop this foolishness. now, i have to give senator mccain credit. he now put out a statement that he now knows that susan rice was not responsible for the information that she read. he now knows where it came from he's disappointed that nobody told him where it came from. i think it's time for him to apologize. >> each night the reverend al sharpton delivers a lively debate of the top headlines. don't miss "politics nation" 6:00 p.m. on msnbc. >>> bad news from hewlett-packard took wall street by surprise. hp plunged 12% after revealing a company it bought for $10 billion last year lied about its finances. the massive blunder has some on the street saying ceo meg whitman may be on the way out. >>> overseas this morning asian stocks fell after european officials failed to release a loan payment to detmier, greece. >>> here at home it's being called the most lucrative insider trading scheme ever. u.s. attorneys in new york announced a former portfolio manager has been arrested for allegedly obtaining secret advanced results of an experimental
as a terrorist attack. today republican senator john mccain said issues and i quote, i participated in hours of hearings in the senate select committee on intelligence last week regarding the events in benghazi where senior intelligence officials were asked this very question and all of them, including the director of national intelligence himself, told us that they did not know who made the changes. >> i think clapper has to say and has to say publicly whether he advocated the youtube video theory, whether he pressed it on the white house and others in the intelligence community and if so, did he do that at the direction of the white house. i think clapper's role here as head of the national intelligence is potentially subsumed by his role as almost a white house staffer. >> democratic congressman adam schiff of california, who sits on the house intelligence committee said today the talking points were amended to protect classified sources of information. were not subject to political spin by the white house or ambassador rice. hillary clinton is set to testify on benghazi next month. >> sh
: for the record, that was senators john mccain and lindsey graham so the question is this grover norquist's last stand? here with an answer is donnie fowler. donnie of course, democratic strategist and great political operative. welcome back into "the war room." is it grover norquist's last stand? >> we can only hope. look, i think republicans should just say sign the pledge for the last election. not for this congress. it expired. there's only 39 of the 40 top senators and republicans -- six are freed. let his people go, grover. let your people go. >> jennifer: he ain't going to let them go. all of this is occurring in the context of the fiscal cliff negotiations and what lindsey graham was suggesting was that if you close some of the loopholes and deductions and revenue goes up, that's not raising taxes apparently grover norquist sees it differently but interestingly enough, there is a push then from the left as well and there are unions that have taken out ads to pressure democratic senators not to compromise. >> h
'm not buying it. none of this adds up. mccain isn't buying it. are you buying it? >> i'm not buying it because the chairman of the intelligence committee said a week ago in classified testimony that same clapper said that they had no idea who changed the talking points and now a week later he says he did? that's kind of strange. >> bill: a lot of lying going on here. >> i mean, i've seen amnesia in my day in my clinical days and that one is pretty quick of the one week. >> bill: okay. again, i know you don't play a psychiatrist on tv, but there has got to be a reason behind this. any theory on what's behind this crazy stuff? , this there are a lot of theories, burr all i know is that in the ends, the narrative spun by susan rice and continued by the president afterwards for days and days afterwards on letterman and elsewhere was that it was a riot out of control because they didn't want the country to know that obama's boast that al-qaeda was on its heels was simply not true. he kept repeating that throughout the campaign. >> bill: they wanted to protect the campaign. >> well, that's one reaso
that his wife is leaving the state department. i saw john mccain, the senator liked that idea, he proposed it over the weekend. tony blair, the special envoy from the so-called quartet, he was intrigued by it when i show with them this week and i spoke with simon perez, who only had strong words for bill clinton. >> president clinton is highly railroadsed in the region, on both sides, certainly would be a credible choice. i don't think it all the to be limited to him in case he -- i don't think you want to create the president whoever the president does name is there for sort of a second choice or doesn't enjoy the confident of president obama. because that's very important for any envoy in the region, having the confident of the president and the secretary of state. >>> you worked hard to try to get this process going. you need someone of that stature, someone with the credibility among the israelis anded palestinians, to really get this peace process off the ground, don't you agree? >> yes, i do. i think it is important. the most important thing is that the person be seeing as having the
of hamas through egypt, from senatorred john mccain and graham and others, asking him to urge the stop of the spread of weapons to sinai which is a threat to egypt's national security and sovereignty. a couple days ago senator graham, one of the three senators, threatened president morsi and said unless you take a month positive role here in this exploding situation in the middle east, republicans in congress will cut off united states aid to egypt and the president morsi responded by helping to broker this cease-fire, and now we will see how he will respond to some more of these threats. it is clear that washington, dc is watching the performance of the egyptian president very closely. >>trace: and that was ed henry on the north lawn. and now, a former senior director for middle east affairs at the national security council and currently the managing director of the washington institute. we sometimes are skeptical, but, secretary of state, hillary clinton flies in, egypt signs on and israel signs off, and we have peace. things in the middle do not seem to work that smooth. your take?
joins senators mccain and kelly ayotte in going further. saying we urge president morsi to act swiftly to stop the smuggling of weapons to extremists in gaza and sinai. which is a threat to egypt's own sovereignty, stability and national security. now two months after the president stopped short of calling egypt an ally, top officials here say they believe so far morsi shown himself to be someone they can do business with. they realize inside the white house the cease-fire may not hold. they may need morsi's help again very soon. shannon? >> shannon: much more with the panel coming up. ed, thank you. those braving the shopping odyssey as black friday may have more crazy to deal with than usual because the labor organizers pick that day to make a point in front of the largest possible audience. chief washington correspondent james rosen explains. >> black friday, a third of americans shop online or brick and mortar stores should prove dark indeed for the country's largest retailer wal-mart. many of the company 1.4 million employees are set to picket outside 1300 wal-mart stores. followi
the al-qaeda stuff. i'm not buying it. none of this adds up. mccain isn't buying it. are you buying it? >> i'm not buying it because the chairman of the house intelligence committee said a week ago in classified testify that same clapper said that they had no idea who changed the talking points and now a week later he is saying did he? that's kind of strange. >> there is a lot of lying going on here. >> i mean, i've seen am amnesiay in my clinical days and that one is pretty quick. >> alisyn: he's not saying -- his office is saying. it could be another case of who in the office did it. another game of clue. >> steve: some in washington on the rye feel he's just the latest fall guy for the white house. >> alisyn: we will keep you posted on all that throughout the show. let's get to your headlines. we have breaking details in search for a serial killer. police in new york city are interrogating a man in connection to this case. the man is apparently a salesman who peddles clothing from a duffel bag. he was caught carrying the bag near the scene of the latest crime. sources say a gun was
was furious that the democrats were pushing back. it was senator john mccain who were furious that the democrats were pushing back on condoleezza rice to be secretary of state. she was wrong on weapons of mass destruction. how is this different? >> the difference is the scrutiny provided by our free press in this country. condoleezza rice was exposed to withering criticism by the press. i don't see that happening now. maybe i've missed something in the talking points, but i don't see that happening. >> so, let me -- >> the ambassador of the united nations should not have been the person on the sunday shows. >> so you're confusing me there for a moment. when you say the scrutiny on the press -- are you saying five days after comments of weapons of mass destruction, you feel like the media was picking apart condoleezza rice? i don't think that's true, sir. most people say that's not the case. it took a long time. i'm talking about three years before she was up for secretary of state. if you're blaming the press, how does it go back to susan rice? >> different timelines. >> how d
asking people. the other day john mccain, a senator, suggested that president obama ask former president bill clinton to serve as a special envoy to try to revive israeli palestinian peace negotiations. george mitchell did it until about a year and a half ago. hillary clinton is leaving the state department. do you think that's a good idea? >> i have the highest regard for president clinton. i think he's an outstanding person. he is the most sunny president i can think of. but it's not for me to nominate american president. >> would he be welcome, as a mediator, as a negotiator? >> i don't want to answer because i think the president of the united states should be free to make his choice, and i think we should respect his choice. but i don't think it's proper for they to indicate we have any favor. i assure you that our respect for the president obama and for clinton, for whom i have the highest regard as well. but in america, that is a decision for the american president. >> there's more of my interview coming up with shimo peres. and something president obama did that peres said israel
office, and he is a very distinguished economist. he was john mccain's economic adviser in the first campaign. he's now running the american action forum, and he's one of the best hawks out there on fiscal issues, but he does it kindly. [laughter] and we have -- and then we have steve case who i just heard how's, you know, steve, i wanted to give him the chairmanship of the jobs council, but he said jeff immelt has that, but not for long. [laughter] so jeff immelt of ge. steve case, one of the founders and chairmen of aol. he is the chairman of revolution, he's very tied up in trying to think about what are the sparks that drive innovation, creativity, how do you drive young people here. so, michael, you've now been involved with a major study, a u.s. competitiveness project at the harvard business school, engaged thousands of people, thousands of voices, surveys, discussions with hundreds of economic leaders, and you've come up with an eight-point plan of things you're advocating. i've gone through it and, you know, some of it makes a lot of sense to me. and i guess it would have ma
.w. bush and john mccain on their campaigns for the white house. he helped draft the mccain-feingold reform act, chaired the commission and founded the campaign legal center and that's a nonpartisan group working with other campaign finance reformers to counter the influence of the $6 billion election. welcome back, trevor. >> thank you very much. nice to be here. >> so did the money matter or not? >> let me give you an analogy that you would appreciate on the east coast which is if you have a hurricane and you come out ask say i'm still alive, do you stop worrying about hurricanes? no, and i think that's where we a are. the tidal wave of money is there. it left lots of democrats standing. it was nowhere near what the super pacs hoped it would be on the republican side in the senate races and obviously it didn't elect governor romney, but they had a huge influence on the race and the next elections. >> i've heard so many people say since the election, this proves that big money didn't make that much of a difference because it was sort of a wash. >> i think there are a couple of ways that ac
coaster and it's going to look dark before either it's totally black as senator mccain likes to say or before it gets done. my bet actually is on getting things done, but i have to say what's depressing about listening to chairman bernanke is how many times we've heard those words before about the last fiscal crisis, whether it's debt ceiling or something else, it really is time for congress to show it can get something done. >> this seems to poll very well, this bipartisanship. you know it. how come there's such difficulty both sides really not willing to nudge off their sacred couch entit entitlements and taxes. >> as ruth was saying, in addition to talking about this endlessly, we're still trying to define what bipartisanship really means for both sides. it's doing more what we want to do than what you want to do. i agree with ruth, it will get done because it has to get done. and i think rate now we're just waiting to see is last-second shot or a little sooner than that. >> bob, you're on the hill. you obviously hear the chatter like i do. when we talk about what can get done, i
, but unlike say over the last two losers, john mccain and john kerry, he doesn't have a senate seat to go back to. he doesn't have a big base in the party that was with him before he got the nomination. so, maybe he's returning to the life he has ahead which is one more personal and focused on family than politics. >> it's no question this is one nominee who is not going to remain a leader in the party. >> he would have to engage in dramatic actions to be a leader in the party. i say never rule it out. i thought he liked the lifestyle he had before he ran, loves his kids, grandsons, the homes they own. while he grapples with the meaning of his loss he's going to be happy building that southern california mansion and spending time with the kids and also trying to figure out if he does have a place in public life or simply a retired grandfather with a lot of grandchildren he loves. >> and as the party begins to move on, we hear about jeb bush from his son, the fact that jeb bush may be running and jeb bush actually chastising marco rubio for some of the comments that he made in iowa. >> don't yo
not a single voter chose romney in 59 voting divisions but slate's dave wigle reports john mccain lost 57 philly divisions without a vote four years ago. so much for his evidence. >>> mechanics mitt romney is back to life as a regular joe, going through the trappings of a presidential candidate. jimmy kimmel seems fascinated with the sight of the former governor pumping gas. >> mitt romney, i don't know why this is so interesting to me but it is. mitt romney yesterday was spotted pumping gas. here he is at a chevron station in la jolla. looks disheveled. looks like he's been on a three day root beer float drinking binge. two weeks ago he woke up wanting to be president and now he's goober. >> twitter was abuzz with sightings of mitt romney at disneyland where he was spotted taking in rides with family members. fellow visitor robin lighten tweeted, yo, mitt romney is at disneyland. i just saw him with hash tag, too dressed up to have fun. bet he skipped tomorrowland, don't you think? this thanksgiving eve we bring you chris christie like you have never seen him before thanks to dave letter
economist. he was john mccain's economic adviser in the first campaign. he's now running the american action forum, and he's the -- he's one of the best hawks out there on fiscal issues, but he does it kindly. [laughter] we have -- then we have steve case who i just heard, steve,mented to give him the chairmanmanship of the jobs council, but jeff has it, but not for long. steve case, a founder and chairman of aol. he chairs the entrepreneurship counsel for the president. he is the chairman of revolution. very tied up in trying to think about what are the sparks that drive innovation, creativity, how do you drive young people here? so, michael, you've now been involved with a major study, u.s. competitiveness project at the harvard business school, engaged thousands of people, thousands of voices, surveys, discussions with hundreds of economic leaders, and you've come up with an eight-point plan on what you advocate. i we want through it. it makes sense to me. it would have made since to me in the 1990s and 1980s. what makes you think it's a big deal now? >> thank you. we had a chance to inte
like. tom coburn, john mccain. so what's going on here. they expanded not violated pledge. >> the exception to taking this seriously because the vast majority of whom are not going to be subjected to this tax and they are being told that somebody else would have to wait. and if you discover in the process that only 60% of the borders are in favor of that, i think it speaks for itself and very well of the american people. if you have a public opinion poll where the rule would be asked how do you feel if we cut all of your taxes and those would give your children free tuition except we have to have a referendum should not be a part of the serious conversation. >> [inaudible] [laughter] >> the exit poll that was done asked several questions and if you cut and paste some of their you get the 60% but the question that was interesting is that people in the press who come up with a 60% number and an actual question which was should you raise taxes to reduce the debt which is a question that is on the table 63% said no. but you can also look at the history of questions going when
xrooe hensive immigration reforce. >> i think ted cruz. lindsey graham and john mccain. i think people like paul ryan nf the house. people who come out of a sort of reagan-esque, kemp-esque pro growth camp within the republican party. i think there's a big opportunity for them to weigh in on the debate. >> when people talk comprehensive reform the big issue, a big issue, probably the biggest, is there a path to citizenship for people who were here. governor romney was firm on that point. did he leave the party on immigration in a bad place? >> i think the party has been suffering on the issue of immigration for years. i think the problem transcends mitt romney. i don't think his position helped the -- helped the republican problem but it predates him. the failure of mccain/kennedy was something republicans got blamed for. in the 1990s there were some really nasty debates and very few, you know, very few republican voices willing to stand up on the side of immigration reform. we've been suffering -- look, there is a nativist, isolationist protectionist strand within the republican party
the mccain scholarship program for challenged kids to get scholarships to go to private schools. when that thing was past 10 years ago, you had one member of the black caucus vote for it. when it came up for renewal last year, you have the majority of the black caucus and the hispanic caucus vote for it. and each of them said, we are doing this because it is helping our children. as we go forward, that has to be the order of the day for country. thank you all very much. and i appreciate your generosity. as i said, i love to next. i want to take some questions before we -- i love gen next. i want to take some questions before we wrap up. thank you. [applause] >> thank you, kevin, very much. i appreciate what you are doing for our country. my question is, in california, we have not adopted a charter schools and vouchers and choice as much as you have experienced in washington d.c. might experience is that once we introduced choice, the bar will rise four parts -- for public schools because then they have to keep up with the charter schools and the voucher schools that parents like to go
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